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酔楯荷恬: 梓囚徒貧圭�鮗� ○ 賜 ★ 辛酔堀貧和鍬匈 梓囚徒貧議 Enter 囚辛指欺云慕朕村匈 梓囚徒貧圭�鮗� ● 辛指欺云匈競何! 泌惚云慕短嗤堋響頼���誅卒亮茂�俊彭堋響��辛聞喘貧圭 "辺茄欺厘議箝誓匂" 孔嬬 才 "紗秘慕禰" 孔嬬��
360 BC
SYMPOSIUM
by Plato
translated by Benjamin Jowett
SYMPOSIUM
PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE�此�APOLLODORUS�察�who repeats to his companion the dialogue which he had heard from Aristodemus�察�and had already once narrated to Glaucon�察�PHAEDRUS�察�PAUSANIAS�察�ERYXIMACHUS�察�ARISTOPHANES�察�AGATHON�察�SOCRATES�察�ALCIBIADES�察�A TROOP OF REVELLERS。 Scene�此�The House of Agathon。
Concerning the things about which you ask to be informed I believe that I am not ill´prepared with an answer。 For the day before yesterday I was coming from my own home at Phalerum to the city�察�and one of my acquaintance�察�who had caught a sight of me from behind�察�hind�察�out playfully in the distance�察�said�此�Apollodorus�察�O thou Phalerian man�察�halt� �So I did as I was bid�察�and then he said�察�I was looking for you�察�Apollodorus�察�only just now�察�that I might ask you about the speeches in praise of love�察�which were delivered by Socrates�察�Alcibiades�察�and others�察�at Agathon's supper。 Phoenix�察�the son of Philip�察�told another person who told me of them�察�his narrative was very indistinct�察�but he said that you knew�察�and I wish that you would give me an account of them。 Who�察�if not you�察�should be the reporter of the words of your friend�拭�And first tell me�察�he said�察�were you present at this meeting�拭 �Your informant�察�Glaucon�察�I said�察�must have been very indistinct indeed�察�if you imagine that the occasion was recent�察�or that I could have been of the party。 Why�察�yes�察�he replied�察�I thought so。 Impossible�此�I said。 Are you ignorant that for many years Agathon has not resided at Athens�察�and not three have elapsed since I became acquainted with Socrates�察�and have made it my daily business to know all that he says and does。 There was a time when I was running about the world�察�fancying myself to be well employed�察�but I was really a most wretched thing�察�no better than you are now。 I thought that I ought to do anything rather than be a philosopher。 Well�察�he said�察�jesting apart�察�tell me when the meeting occurred。 In our boyhood�察�I replied�察�when Agathon won the prize with his first tragedy�察�on the day after that on which he and his chorus offered the sacrifice of victory。 Then it must have been a long while ago�察�he said�察�and who told you´did Socrates�拭 �No indeed�察�I replied�察�but the same person who told Phoenix�察�he was a little fellow�察�who never wore any shoes Aristodemus�察�of the deme of Cydathenaeum。 He had been at Agathon's feast�察�and I think that in those days there was no one who was a more devoted admirer of Socrates。 Moreover�察�I have asked Socrates about the truth of some parts of his narrative�察�and he confirmed them。 Then�察�said Glaucon�察�let us have the tale over again�察�is not the road to Athens just made for conversation�拭�And so we walked�察�and talked of the discourses on love�察�and therefore�察�as I said at first�察�I am not ill´prepared to comply with your request�察�and will have another rehearsal of them if you like。 For to speak or to hear others speak of philosophy always gives me the greatest pleasure�察�to say nothing of the profit。 But when I hear another strain�察�especially that of you rich men and traders�察�such conversation displeases me�察�and I pity you who are my companions�察�because you think that you are doing something when in reality you are doing nothing。 And I dare say that you pity me in return�察�whom you regard as an unhappy creature�察�and very probably you are right。 But I certainly know of you what you only think of me´there is the difference。 Companion。 I see�察�Apollodorus�察�that you are just the same´always speaking evil of yourself�察�and of others�察�and I do believe that you pity all mankind�察�with the exception of Socrates�察�yourself first of all�察�true in this to your old name�察�which�察�however deserved I know how you acquired�察�of Apollodorus the madman�察�for you are always raging against yourself and everybody but Socrates。 Apollodorus。 Yes�察�friend�察�and the reason why I am said to be mad�察�and out of my wits�察�is just because I have these notions of myself and you�察�no other evidence is required。 Com。 No more of that�察�Apollodorus�察�but let me renew my request that you would repeat the conversation。 Apoll。 Well�察�the tale of love was on this wise�此�But perhaps I had better begin at the beginning�察�and endeavour to give you the exact words of Aristodemus�此 �He said that he met Socrates fresh from the bath and sandalled�察�and as the sight of the sandals was unusual�察�he asked him whither he was going that he had been converted into such a beau�此� To a banquet at Agathon's�察�he replied�察�whose invitation to his sacrifice of victory I refused yesterday�察�fearing a crowd�察�but promising that I would come to´day instead�察�and so I have put on my finery�察�because he is such a fine man。 What say you to going with me unasked�拭 �I will do as you bid me�察�I replied。 Follow then�察�he said�察�and let us demolish the proverb��
To the feasts of inferior men the good unbidden go��
instead of which our proverb will run�此�
To the feasts of the good the good unbidden go��
and this alteration may be supported by the authority of Homer himself�察�who not only demolishes but literally outrages the proverb。 For�察�after picturing Agamemnon as the most valiant of men�察�he makes Menelaus�察�who is but a fainthearted warrior�察�come unbidden to the banquet of Agamemnon�察�who is feasting and offering sacrifices�察�not the better to the worse�察�but the worse to the better。 I rather fear�察�Socrates�察�said Aristodemus�察�lest this may still be my case�察�and that�察�like Menelaus in Homer�察�I shall be the inferior person�察�who
To the leasts of the wise unbidden goes。
But I shall say that I was bidden of you�察�and then you will have to make an excuse。
Two going together��
he replied�察�in Homeric fashion�察�one or other of them may invent an excuse by the way。 This was the style of their conversation as they went along。 Socrates dropped behind in a fit of abstraction�察�and desired Aristodemus�察�who was waiting�察�to go on before him。 When he reached the house of Agathon he found the doors wide open�察�and a comical thing happened。 A servant coming out met him�察�and led him at once into the banqueting´hall in which the guests were reclining�察�for the banquet was about to begin。 Welcome�察�Aristodemus�察�said Agathon�察�as soon as he appeared´you are just in time to sup with us�察�if you come on any other matter put it off�察�and make one of us�察�as I was looking for you yesterday and meant to have asked you�察�if I could have found you。 But what have you done with Socrates�拭 �I turned round�察�but Socrates was nowhere to be seen�察�and I had to explain that he had been with me a moment before�察�and that I came by his invitation to the supper。 You were quite right in coming�察�said Agathon�察�but where is he himself�拭 �He was behind me just now�察�as I entered�察�he said�察�and I cannot think what has become of him。 Go and look for him�察�boy�察�said Agathon�察�and bring him in�察�and do you�察�Aristodemus�察�meanwhile take the place by Eryximachus。 The servant then assisted him to wash�察�and he lay down�察�and presently another servant came in and reported that our friend Socrates had retired into the portico of the neighbouring house。 ;There he is fixed�察─�said he�察 �and when I call to him he will not stir。; How strange�察�said Agathon�察�then you must call him again�察�and keep calling him。 Let him alone�察�said my informant�察�he has a way of stopping anywhere and losing himself without any reason。 I believe that he will soon appear�察�do not therefore disturb him。 Well�察�if you think so�察�I will leave him�察�said Agathon。 And then�察�turning to the servants�察�he added�察 �Let us have supper without waiting for him。 Serve up whatever you please�察�for there�察�is no one to give you orders�察�hitherto I have never left you to yourselves。 But on this occasion imagine that you art our hosts�察�and that I and the company are your guests�察�treat us well�察�and then we shall commend you。; After this�察�supper was served�察�but still no´Socrates�察�and during the meal Agathon several times expressed a wish to send for him�察�but Aristodemus objected�察�and at last when the feast was about half over´for the fit�察�as usual�察�was not of long duration´Socrates entered�察�Agathon�察�who was reclining alone at the end of the table�察�begged that he would take the place next to him�察�that ;I may touch you�察─�he said�察 �and have the benefit of that wise thought which came into your mind in the portico�察�and is now in your possession�察�for I am certain that you would not have come away until you had found what you sought。; How I wish�察�said Socrates�察�taking his place as he was desired�察�that wisdom could be infused by touch�察�out of the fuller the emptier man�察�as water runs through wool out of a fuller cup into an emptier one�察�if that were so�察�how greatly should I value the privilege of reclining at your side� �For you would have filled me full with a stream of wisdom plenteous and fair�察�whereas my own is of a very mean and questionable sort�察�no better than a dream。 But yours is bright and full of promise�察�and was manifested forth in all the splendour of youth the day before yesterday�察�in the presence of more than thirty thousand Hellenes。 You are mocking�察�Socrates�察�said Agathon�察�and ere long you and I will have to determine who bears off the palm of wisdom´of this Dionysus shall be the judge�察�but at present you are better occupied with supper。 Socrates took his place on the couch�察�and supped with the rest�察�and then libations were offered�察�and after a hymn had been sung to the god�察�and there had been the usual ceremonies�察�they were about to commence drinking�察�when Pausanias said�察�And now�察�my friends�察�how can we drink with least injury to ourselves�拭�I can assure you that I feel severely the effect of yesterday's potations�察�and must have time to recover�察�and I suspect that most of you are in the same predicament�察�for you were of the party yesterday。 Consider then�此�How can the drinking be made easiest�拭 �I entirely agree�察�said Aristophanes�察�that we should�察�by all means�察�avoid hard drinking�察�for I was myself one of those who were yesterday drowned in drink。 I think that you are right�察�said Eryximachus�察�the son of Acumenus�察�but I should still like to hear one other person speak�此�Is Agathon able t
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