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CRITO:  Yes; it does。



SOCRATES:  From these premisses I proceed to argue the question whether I

ought or ought not to try and escape without the consent of the Athenians: 

and if I am clearly right in escaping; then I will make the attempt; but if

not; I will abstain。  The other considerations which you mention; of money

and loss of character and the duty of educating one's children; are; I

fear; only the doctrines of the multitude; who would be as ready to restore

people to life; if they were able; as they are to put them to deathand

with as little reason。  But now; since the argument has thus far prevailed;

the only question which remains to be considered is; whether we shall do

rightly either in escaping or in suffering others to aid in our escape and

paying them in money and thanks; or whether in reality we shall not do

rightly; and if the latter; then death or any other calamity which may

ensue on my remaining here must not be allowed to enter into the

calculation。



CRITO:  I think that you are right; Socrates; how then shall we proceed?



SOCRATES:  Let us consider the matter together; and do you either refute me

if you can; and I will be convinced; or else cease; my dear friend; from

repeating to me that I ought to escape against the wishes of the Athenians: 

for I highly value your attempts to persuade me to do so; but I may not be

persuaded against my own better judgment。  And now please to consider my

first position; and try how you can best answer me。



CRITO:  I will。



SOCRATES:  Are we to say that we are never intentionally to do wrong; or

that in one way we ought and in another way we ought not to do wrong; or is

doing wrong always evil and dishonorable; as I was just now saying; and as

has been already acknowledged by us?  Are all our former admissions which

were made within a few days to be thrown away?  And have we; at our age;

been earnestly discoursing with one another all our life long only to

discover that we are no better than children?  Or; in spite of the opinion

of the many; and in spite of consequences whether better or worse; shall we

insist on the truth of what was then said; that injustice is always an evil

and dishonour to him who acts unjustly?  Shall we say so or not?



CRITO:  Yes。



SOCRATES:  Then we must do no wrong?



CRITO:  Certainly not。



SOCRATES:  Nor when injured injure in return; as the many imagine; for we

must injure no one at all?  (E。g。 compare Rep。)



CRITO:  Clearly not。



SOCRATES:  Again; Crito; may we do evil?



CRITO:  Surely not; Socrates。



SOCRATES:  And what of doing evil in return for evil; which is the morality

of the manyis that just or not?



CRITO:  Not just。



SOCRATES:  For doing evil to another is the same as injuring him?



CRITO:  Very true。



SOCRATES:  Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to any

one; whatever evil we may have suffered from him。  But I would have you

consider; Crito; whether you really mean what you are saying。  For this

opinion has never been held; and never will be held; by any considerable

number of persons; and those who are agreed and those who are not agreed

upon this point have no common ground; and can only despise one another

when they see how widely they differ。  Tell me; then; whether you agree

with and assent to my first principle; that neither injury nor retaliation

nor warding off evil by evil is ever right。  And shall that be the premiss

of our argument?  Or do you decline and dissent from this?  For so I have

ever thought; and continue to think; but; if you are of another opinion;

let me hear what you have to say。  If; however; you remain of the same mind

as formerly; I will proceed to the next step。



CRITO:  You may proceed; for I have not changed my mind。



SOCRATES:  Then I will go on to the next point; which may be put in the

form of a question:Ought a man to do what he admits to be right; or ought

he to betray the right?



CRITO:  He ought to do what he thinks right。



SOCRATES:  But if this is true; what is the application?  In leaving the

prison against the will of the Athenians; do I wrong any? or rather do I

not wrong those whom I ought least to wrong?  Do I not desert the

principles which were acknowledged by us to be justwhat do you say?



CRITO:  I cannot tell; Socrates; for I do not know。



SOCRATES:  Then consider the matter in this way:Imagine that I am about

to play truant (you may call the proceeding by any name which you like);

and the laws and the government come and interrogate me:  'Tell us;

Socrates;' they say; 'what are you about? are you not going by an act of

yours to overturn usthe laws; and the whole state; as far as in you lies? 

Do you imagine that a state can subsist and not be overthrown; in which the

decisions of law have no power; but are set aside and trampled upon by

individuals?'  What will be our answer; Crito; to these and the like words? 

Any one; and especially a rhetorician; will have a good deal to say on

behalf of the law which requires a sentence to be carried out。  He will

argue that this law should not be set aside; and shall we reply; 'Yes; but

the state has injured us and given an unjust sentence。'  Suppose I say

that?



CRITO:  Very good; Socrates。



SOCRATES:  'And was that our agreement with you?' the law would answer; 'or

were you to abide by the sentence of the state?'  And if I were to express

my astonishment at their words; the law would probably add:  'Answer;

Socrates; instead of opening your eyesyou are in the habit of asking and

answering questions。  Tell us;What complaint have you to make against us

which justifies you in attempting to destroy us and the state?  In the

first place did we not bring you into existence?  Your father married your

mother by our aid and begat you。  Say whether you have any objection to

urge against those of us who regulate marriage?'  None; I should reply。 

'Or against those of us who after birth regulate the nurture and education

of children; in which you also were trained?  Were not the laws; which have

the charge of education; right in commanding your father to train you in

music and gymnastic?'  Right; I should reply。  'Well then; since you were

brought into the world and nurtured and educated by us; can you deny in the

first place that you are our child and slave; as your fathers were before

you?  And if this is true you are not on equal terms with us; nor can you

think that you have a right to do to us what we are doing to you。  Would

you have any right to strike or revile or do any other evil to your father

or your master; if you had one; because you have been struck or reviled by

him; or received some other evil at his hands?you would not say this? 

And because we think right to destroy you; do you think that you have any

right to destroy us in return; and your country as far as in you lies? 

Will you; O professor of true virtue; pretend that you are justified in

this?  Has a philosopher like you failed to discover that our country is

more to be valued and higher and holier far than mother or father or any

ancestor; and more to be regarded in the eyes of the gods and of men of

understanding? also to be soothed; and gently and reverently entreated when

angry; even more than a father; and either to be persuaded; or if not

persuaded; to be obeyed?  And when we are punished by her; whether with

imprisonment or stripes; the punishment is to be endured in silence; and if

she lead us to wounds or death in battle; thither we follow as is right;

neither may any one yield or retreat or leave his rank; but whether in

battle or in a court of law; or in any other place; he must do what his

city and his country order him; or he must change their view of what is

just:  and if he may do no violence to his father or mother; much less may

he do violence to his country。'  What answer shall we make to this; Crito? 

Do the laws speak truly; or do they not?



CRITO:  I think that they do。



SOCRATES:  Then the laws will say:  'Consider; Socrates; if we are speaking

truly that in your present attempt you are going to do us an injury。  For;

having brought you into the world; and nurtured and educated you; and given

you and every other citizen a share in every good which we had to give; we

further proclaim to any Athenian by the liberty which we allow him; that if

he does not like us when he has become of age and has seen the ways of the

city; and made our acquaintance; he may go where he pleases and take his

goods with him。  None of us laws will forbid him or interfere with him。 

Any one who does not like us and the city; and who wants to emigrate to a

colony or to any other city; may go where he likes; retaining his property。 

But he who has experience of the manner in which we order justice and

administer the state; and still remains; has entered into an implied

contract that he will do as we command him。  And he who disobeys us is; as

we maintain; thrice wrong:  first; because in disobeying us he is

disobeying his parents; secondly; because we are the authors of his

education; thirdly; because he has made an agreement with us that he will

duly obey our commands; and he neither obeys them nor convinces us that our

commands are unjust; and we do not rudely impose them; but give him the

alternative of obeying or convincing us;that is what we offer; and he

does neither。



'These are the sort of accusations to which; as we were saying; you;

Socrates; will be exposed if you accomplish your intentions; you; above all

other Athenians。'  Suppose now I ask; why I rather than anybody else? they

will justly retort upon me that I above all other men have acknowledged the

agreement。  'There is clear proof;' they will say; 'Socrates; that we and

the city were not displeasing to you。  Of all Athenians you have been the

most constant resident in the city; which; as you
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